Question:
Is the use of Paul Bearer's death in the Undertaker vs CM Punk feud in a distasteful way? Why?
The Lord of Darkness
2013-03-17 01:12:46 UTC
Is his death being used distastefully, reasonably, appropriately, etc, yes or no? Why?
Twelve answers:
Marty
2013-03-17 04:51:52 UTC
I think it's borderline distasteful, but in line with other story lines in the past. Adding real-life events to WWE story lines is a common strategy, and if Paul Bearer's family gave their okay, who are we to criticize?
LPSR! CM Parka
2013-03-17 06:34:59 UTC
What did CM Punk actually say about Paul Bearer? At any point did CM Punk say anything negative about the man or make fun of the situation of his death? No, he said "Its fortunate that Paul passed when he did because to him you will always be perfect!" Nothing about that sentence is disrespectful to the memory of Paul, yes he came out to say it at a bad time but did we expect anything less?



The WWE has a wrestlemania to sell and if anything the death of Paul Bearer, as sad as it might be, has come at the perfect time for the company because now they actually have something to build a feud around, The Undertaker has now got a problem with Punk that goes beyond him just wanting to end the streak. The Undertaker didn't have a problem with Punk before he made a point of telling him he was going to end his streak while he was mid tribute to Bearer. Its a far cry from Michael Cole insulting Jerry Lawler's mum or Randy Orton screaming Eddie Guerrero is in hell. They used the death, we knew they would, and they did so in the most tasteful way any death has been used for a long time.
Clark W-Angel Buffy Chosen
2013-03-17 02:49:07 UTC
Not at all.



The death of Jerry Lawler's mother was used incredibly distastefully. Paul Bearer meanwhile, has been fine. Punk really hasn't said a word about or against him. He's just interrupted The Undertaker and Kane's tribute to him. Dick move? Absolutely, but it's not distasteful on the part of the company. I mean, that show was pretty much a three hour tribute to Paul Bearer. The showed great highlight clips of his WWE career, they had speeches praising him and the talk was almost universally positive. They showed him and his career with the WWE in a great light.



it would have seemed weird if The Undertaker and Kane hadn't mentioned it.
Real Celtic Warior
2013-03-17 18:36:00 UTC
I didn't see the show but read about it and saw clips later on, I didn't see anything disrespectful, I never saw Punk saying anything bad about Paul Bearer!



People want to compare WWE to Tv Shows all the time, a few years ago ABC had a sitcom starring John Ritter, when he died, they didn't try to replace the man, and they didn't ignore the man's death, ABC decided to have the character die on the show too!



WWE can't just replace the Paul Bearer character with someone else, he is too iconic, plus it would be kind of silly to just ignore, so WWE used his death on the show too, payed tribute to the man Willaim Moody, and used Punk in a way Punk's character is infamous for behaving, Cm Punk is playing a Punk on WWE Television, that is the whole point of his character, but he didn't do anything distasteful when it comes to Paul Bearer!
?
2013-03-17 01:57:28 UTC
What they did is over the line. Yes Paul bearers family agreed to it but still. That is NOT something you do to honor a man like Paul Bearer.
?
2016-10-31 05:39:26 UTC
definite because of the fact if Paul Bearer did no longer die then such as you reported the feud could of been with reference to the streak yet considering that Paul Bearer tragically died the feud is commencing as much as have some spark to it
lee_ice2007
2013-03-19 17:30:39 UTC
Oh there will be more...f*** WWE. they call themselves PG, yet diss dead people, and heart attacks? They didn't even go near that in the ATTITUDE era. Punk won't even go out as a respected man, just someone that sucks so much he has to get the cheapest heat possible.. I don't even watch Raw anymore
?
2013-03-17 02:06:42 UTC
I think what they've done so far has been fine. They played videos of him all night. Of course when Punk interrupted I got mad.. but honestly I don't think it was that bad. His family approved of it and I'm sure he would too. I don't know what WWE is planning for the rest of the Punk/Taker thing but what they've done so far has been alright in my opinion.
TheWrestlingPhilosopher
2013-03-18 20:49:19 UTC
I asked myself this same question when the use of Bearer's tragic loss was the gain of this high profiled feud. Here things to analyze when one asks this question .



First of all, I would be almost completely certain Undertaker is okay with this exploitation. As those of us with even an working knowledge of the internal workings of WWE knows, Undertaker is one of the most powerful men in the company. The man who serves as supreme judge of wrestler's actions, the man who was the sole guy to knock down the door and got answers from Vince after the screwjob, the same guy revered for respecting the business with an old school mentality kept from his uprising of the territorial days. Undertaker is a protector of the business, yet isn't afraid to cut the bullcrap, hence it is obvious that he is okay with this, or else we wouldn't have seen what we saw. Undertaker knows how loss and cheap heat off it can generate additional emotion to viewers attached to the diseased, hence they get mad at the heel, want to see said heel's butt get kicked even more and an now on the fence buyer buys the ppv. Undertaker's streak has been kept interesting in a larg part through not only the streak itself, but the outside means surrounding it/the side story attatched. HBK had the light vs Dark theme, Kane had the legendary attitude era stronger brother storyline, Orton had the young up and comer vs the ultimate veteran and the list can go on when discussing the best "streak feuds". Undertaker vs Punk had the generic heel face elements, but with a little added heat, the feud now becomes personal to the Undertaker, adding an element to the feud to propell it to a higher degree than just generic competition. I think we would all agree Undertaker stands not only as one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, but as one of the best embassadors and symbols of justice in the business' history, so if Undertaker (who was friends with Paul Bearer as well as wrestling for him) is fine with it, than it seems that fans should be a little more open to accepting as well.



It needs to be said that wrestling thrives off emotion, from wanting to hate the girl getting, cocky ,wealthier and better than you Flair to the ultimate blue collar badass Steve Austin who so many lived vicariously through. It is hard to determine what is right and wrong for wrestling in every facet, even hardcore wrestling. I mean many used to say The Sheik was overly horriffying with his never before seen scary tactics jumping guardrails and taunting audiences while using foreign objects. Than the line was pushed with Abdulah's bloodfests for matches with guys like Colon and Bruiser . Things esculated to Cactus Jack in time bomb death matches and the inception of ECW, which esculated to CZW and Backyard wrestling leagues. All along, what is "too far" morphed through the years as things seem more ok and tame. Than you have the evolution of sex in wrestling and we judge what extent of use is ok for a storyline? Is it okay to run an lesbian storyline or even an pregnancy angle? Some would say no because that is offensive to an portion of the viewers and goes too far for an entertainment, others would say wrestling has edgy roots, sex is needed to advance some heels, and wrestling is entertainment, so these people's view is as long as the overall quality doesn't suffer, anything is okay. Sandman being crucified, Undertaker's sacrifices, Slaughter playing an Iraq sympathizer, Harlem heat's original gimmick as slaves, Eugene the mentally ill wrestler, gun portrayal in wrestling as the list goes on so does the debate. My point in all this is there is no definitive answer to what is "tasteful or "appropriate", since the answer to this lies in the individual's beliefs.





Last to consider for this discussion is the whole episode of raw last week. Sure Undertaker's tribute to his manager and friend got cut short in the name of the feud by CM Punk, yet the actual words CM Punk said "I'm sorry for your loss... at wrestlemania" were clearly said in character, and emotion envoked built heat for the feud successfully. Undertaker still ended out at the final scene and united with his brother Kane for an substitution for a formal tribute to their former manager Paul Bearer. Not to mention RAW dedicated the show to Paul Bearer, showing him proper respect throughout the rest of the show. This established WWE didn't take Paul Bearer's death lightly, and the begginning only served as a means to build heat with no other alterior motive in my eyes.



Due to the fact that the rest of the show was done in tasteful tribute, judging off wrestling's radical history and since the begginning of the segment was done in pure storyline advancement, personally I am cool with what went on.
?
2013-03-17 02:19:44 UTC
it's bad that they did it. it gives the impression that his death isn't real since that supposed feud between undertaker and cm punk isn't supposed to be real.
CraSH CraSH
2013-03-17 03:41:27 UTC
i would like to think that after all the weird gimmicks and crazy crap he himself did that he'd be flattered to support a heel story line
?
2013-03-17 01:17:21 UTC
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