How Pro wrestler have Legendary career?+BQ?

Question

What makes Somebody Legendary or Classic? Is it because of Their Accomplishments? Having Great gimmick/ Character? What really make Pro wrestler have Legendary Career? It's Your own definitions and Explain your reasons if, You'll put a great example.



BQ Can Pro Wrestler have Successful and Legendary Career without Great Gimmick?

Answer 1

Since Pro Wrestling is scripted, then the kayfabe accomplishments shouldn't matter at all.



Eight years reign as WWE Champion (Bruno Sammartino), 4 years reign as WWE Champion (Hulk Hogan), the longest WWE Champion in modern era (CM Punk), 16 World Title reigns (Ric Flair), 15 year unbeaten Strek (Andre The Giant) and even Wrestlemania Streak (The Undertaker) should never be taken into account to determine the Legendary of a wrestler.



Instead, the non kayfabe accomplishments should be the ones which matter. The Legendary career would include the Legendary feuds, moments, and matches the wrestler had in his career. Look at these Legends for examples : Stone Cold, The Undertaker, Triple H, Mick Foley, The Rock, Bret Hart, and Shawn Michaels. These Legends had Legendary careers for sure.



Everyone would talk about these seven wrestlers till at least 50 years from now. Look at Stone Cold. Even after he long retired, many of IWC members still talk about him everyday. Same with The Rock, Bret Hart, and Shawn Michaels. Also, The Undertaker, it's almost everyday IWC questions when he will return.



Other than that, wrestler such as Edge could also be added to the list. Everyone still talks about TLC matches he had, his funny segments with Christian, etc. And Eddie Guerrero.



I would like to add Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Andre The Giant, Terry Funk, etc, but these wrestlers are before my time.



A wrestler with a Legendary career include so many aspects including great gimmick. But, the most important thing is how much Fans will talk and remember you after you retired. That's the most important thing. It's like Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson in boxing. Boxing Fans keep talking about them, even after they're long gone. But, the difference is boxing is a real sport, therefore we judge them on their accomplishments. But, with wrestling, it's all the great Legendary feuds, matches, and moments the wrestlers have shared with us in his career.



BQ : In WWE, today, no, it isn't possible at all. But, back in early-mid 90s (before 1997) and Ruthless Agression Era, yeah it's very possible. Look, Chris Benoit did that without a gimmick at all. Benoit just relied on his wrestling skill. Then look at Bret Hart who doesn't have great gimmick. Bret Hart's only known as a superior technical wrestler, not as a gimmicky wrestler.



And wrestlers such as Shelton Benjamin who didn't have great gimmick at all also got pushed back in 2004. Too bad, he never makes to main event status.



I strongly disagree with anyone who sad John Cena isn't a gimmick. Cena is a gimmick. He played a babyface superhero who always stands for what's right, never backs down from any challenge, never gives up, and plays fair by the rules. I don't believe at all that Cena's like that in real life. His betrayal and divorce of his wife says it all. His wife said Cena cheated on her with Mickie James. That already shows that Cena isn't a good guy we saw on TV in real life. If Cena always stands for what's right and never backs down from any challenge, then he wouldn't cheat on his wife and even divorce her. And we also hear rumors that Cena is the one causing Kenny Dykstra get fired. I find it's very possible that one day WWE Fans would find out that Cena's a jerk in real life, just like Hulk Hogan was.



Other than those two eras, it isn't just possible at all to be successful without great gimmick. WWE won't push anyone without a great gimmick.

Answer 2

"Legend" and "classic" aren't the same thing.



"Classic" is generally what we call something or somebody that was the first to do something or be something that becomes popular and endures over the years; something or somebody that sets a standard that others are compared to. The original Nature Boy, Buddy Rogers, is an example of "classic". He pretty much created the bad boy blonde arrogant sophisticated rich guy character that so many have tried to copy over the years. Guys like Ric Flair and Curt Hennig, and even Dolph Ziggler today.



"Legends" don't have to be the first to do something but they are generally considered the best at it. Flair, for example. He didn't create that gimmick (Buddy Rogers did) but most people consider Flair the best at it.



Another example, Hulk Hogan. As a pro wrestling superhero, he's certainly a legend. He wasn't the first to take on that role by any stretch of the imagination. But pro wrestling superheroes are generally compared to Hogan (good or bad), even the guy who created the gimmick (Superstar Billy Graham).



It's difficult to pinpoint the ingredients that make a "legend". Each person has their own definition. But generally it's a sum of all their parts that when put together make them better (or at least more entertaining) than the pack. Talents and skills, of course. You don't necessarily have to be a wrestling machine but you certainly have to be entertaining in the ring and get the fans to care about what happens to you. The gimmick has to be believable. Taker is a great example of that. He has a completely cartoon gimmick (an undead demon from Hell) but through his talents and skills we have no trouble at all believing his gimmick. If he wasn't as good as he is the fans would see him as a novelty act, comedy, and he wouldn't be the respected star he is. Accomplishments matter, too. Not necessarily championships but feuds and matches that set standards that fans continue talking about years later. Roddy Piper is a good example. Mic skills help but aren't absolutely necessary. Magnum T.A. is a good example. He was good enough on the mic but he certainly wasn't a Ric Flair or a Dusty Rhodes.



If I were to sum up "legend" I would say it's a skilled believable wrestler who engaged in matches/feuds throughout his career that fans still talk about years later, a wrestler you know, that when he appears, something extraordinary will happen. Piper, Taker, Flair, HBK, Stone Cold, Vader, Stan Hansen, The Great Muta, Jushin Liger, Mil Mascaras, Andre The Giant. Guys like that; guys with the skills, talents, and believability to make the ordinary, extraordinary.



BQ: Chris Benoit did. He was called "The Rabid Wolverine" because of his intensity and ferocity in the ring, not because he tried to act like an animal. Wahoo McDaniel is another. His "gimmick" (American Indian) wasn't a gimmick, he really was Choctaw-Chickasaw, but he didn't make it a cartoon stereotype (as say, Tatanka did) and his heritage played very little in his feuds and matches. Wahoo is a legend in the ring because of his toughness, skills, and matches with the top-notch stars of the 60's - 80's.



Vince McMahon would have us believe that a "superstar" has to have some crazy Hollywood-influenced WWE cartoon gimmick to be successful. Vince McMahon is wrong. Before Vince came along and made all of his performers into cartoon characters the wrestling business was mostly guys in tights with real names battling for championships. The cartoon gimmicks...there really weren't very many of them. Those they did have were mostly guys in masks or "evil foreigner heel" stereotypes (the "devious smiling Jap", the "brutal Russian monster", the "sadistic German nazi", the African "cannibal", etc).



The most successful major star without a gimmick today is Kurt Angle. Kurt's "gimmick" is just Kurt being himself as the driven Olympic athlete who wants to be the best in the world.



And John Cena is just the real-life Cena with the normal human faults removed.

Answer 3

My all time favorite facet. He is actually performed the whole lot there was once to do in WWE. He is win 31 championships. King of the Ring. Royal Rumble, first cash in the financial institution. Simplest wrestler in history to reap all three of these accomplishments. Just at the beginning of his career, facet was already a legend purpose of his TLC Tag team matches with Christian, Hardy Boys, and Dudley Boys. He is the king of ladder fits. He normally gave a hundred% in the ring. His fits were constantly first-class to look. He is had some of the pleasant feuds in WWE too. John Cena and part feud used to be epic. Aspect has had quite a lot of gigantic wins before his retirement, it would be too many to jot down. Facet continually had support from the fanatics ever on the grounds that the commencing. Once he become a essential heel for the period of the feud with Matt Hardy, every person hated him. He used to be one of the most excellent heels of the decade. Side has comprehensive so much in WWE, he is certainly the most positive with one of the crucial finest careers.

Answer 4

That's up to the fans to decide. "Legend" is an opinion thing.



BQ: Lance Storm is considered a legend,what was his gimmick?